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December 11, 2006
Ninavie says, "Welcome to The Isparian Dragons December Guild Meeting, thank you for coming."
Ninavie says, "We're only oldies here today so I'll skip the boring lecture on the rules, you all know if you disrupt the meeting,,, there will be severe consequences"
Ninavie says, "aka no cookies"
Aiymi Katashi zips it
Daggerwood -)
Ninavie :)
Little Thor )
Ninavie says, "We really only have 1 thing to discuss this time. And that's the future of TID"
Ninavie says, "TID had become rather inactive during the last few months and much of that is due to the leadership being inactive."
Ninavie says, "So we're bringing up some suggested changes and want to hear the members opinions and thoughts"
Ninavie says, "I'll start with saying that I am not leaving the game, and I am not stepping down as a monarch today. I know there has been several people thinking that a possibility"
Ninavie says, "However, I have not for a while now been the best monarch and I am considering stepping down"
Ninavie says, "If I did I would very much like to see TID stay TID, and one way for that to be, would be me swearing to Vanykrye"
Ninavie says, "He has been second in command for a long time and I don't think anyone doubts that he would do great as our monarch."
Ninavie says, "Another option would be for TID to join another guild"
Vanykrye says, "Aiymi Katashi tells you, "drive us nuts..... but probably do well ;)""
Ninavie says, "hehe"
Aiymi Katashi grins
Daggerwood says, "I am not sure that I agree that it is a leadership issue but I would not be opposed to any changes that would work for you all"
Ninavie says, "If, TID as a family decide to move, we are suggesting Angeni's guild, as they share alot of the same views of clean, respectful fun in this game as we do"
Ninavie :)
Daggerwood says, "What guild is that?"
Vanykrye says, "Guardians of Hope"
Little Thor says, "nop no't for me I stay"
Ninavie says, "It is of course the decision of each one of us where we wish to go"
Ninavie says, "As a guild we might not go anywhere, but we do want to give options"
Ninavie says, "And the guild will see changes, maybe some smaller, maybe some bigger"
Ninavie says, "And we want everyone to have a voice in what is happening"
Ninavie says, "One of the changes that will be happening today tho is with the current second in commands"
Ninavie says, "Zegeger, you have the floor"
You say, "As some of you may have noticed, I have not been playing very much lately and have not been keeping up with my responsibilities"
You say, "Unfortunatly RL things have been taking up more of my time, and my interest in the game has been going down abit lately"
You say, "now I am not planning on quitting"
You say, "however I think it fair that I step down now as an officer."
You say, "I plan to continue to stay was webmaster so I will still be helping there"
You say, "It was an honor to serve as an officer for you guys and I hope that I was able to be helpful atleast occasionally :)"
Aiymi Katashi says, "you will be missed... but glad you are not quitting completely....."
You say, "thank you :)"
You say, "ok thats all I have"
Vanykrye says, "Zeg, it has been great serving with you. I hope that someday you have no life and come back to us."
Vanykrye says, "Or...well...um..."
Aiymi Katashi says, "lol"
Little Thor says, "you are great officer Zeh and help us much ty"
Leon the Loyal says, "LOL"
Devine's Right Hand says, "lol"
Ninavie says, "well, on behalf of TID as a whole, we thank you greatly for all the work you have put in for the family"
You say, "thank you :)"
Ninavie says, "hehe"
You say, "hehe vany"
Vanykrye says, "Sorry guys, I'm in one of those really weird and mouthy moods again today."
Ninavie says, "he says that like it's ever different"
Daggerwood says, "You have certainly donated a huge amount of time and money to making this all work, all very much appreciated though I am we haven't told you nearly often enough"
Zegeger :)
You say, "I appreciate it"
Little Thor says, "I agre"
Ninavie says, "Ok, so as you see, changes will happen, how big ones, really depends on us as a whole."
Ninavie says, "I am suggesting we take December and try and discuss our options and for everyone to feel they are in the places they want to be"
Ninavie says, "This will be up on the forum of course and hopefully weäll hear from our members that aren't here today there"
Ninavie says, "but right now, do you guys have questions, comments opinions, doubts and so on"
Leon the Loyal says, "!"
Devine's Right Hand says, "though there has been a slowdown in activity, which does seem to happen this time of year... looks like the group is going well"
Devine's Right Hand says, "several buff bots in shoshi"
Devine's Right Hand says, "mansion kept up"
Devine's Right Hand says, "web site with forum with active people on it"
Devine's Right Hand says, "and I am sure once holidays are over more questing goin gon"
Ninavie says, "Leon,, you have a comment.."
Leon the Loyal says, "for what it's worth. I would rather not jump into another clan as a group"
Leon the Loyal says, "I also have a question."
Ninavie says, "go ahead"
Leon the Loyal says, "are we losing clan members to World of Warcraft?"
Ninavie says, "Well, we have steadily, to WoW or other games. But not so that it is a contributing fact for todays talks really"
Leon the Loyal says, "ok thanks. that's all I have"
Ninavie says, "We have also gained new members that are returning to the game after breaks"
Vanykrye says, "Leon, question for you."
Leon the Loyal says, "sure"
Vanykrye says, "Could you elaborate on why you wouldn't want us to join another clan as a whole group?"
Leon the Loyal says, "just my cautious nature probably."
Vanykrye says, "Fair enough"
Leon the Loyal says, "when Masun joined different clans it was really complicated"
Leon the Loyal says, "I was in this clan, but Kakene was in a different clan"
Leon the Loyal says, "I did not choose either. It was based on where patrons went"
Leon the Loyal says, "it took awhile to get all that straightened out; but it was an easy choice to bring Kakene into TID"
Ninavie :)
Leon the Loyal says, "irl I am pretty intelligent, but in Dereth I am a dumb warrior. I hit things with my sword."
Aiymi Katashi says, "hehe"
Ninavie says, "hehe"
Leon the Loyal says, "that is about as complicated as I can handle here I'm afraid"
Little Thor says, "he eh"
Daggerwood says, "I think we are all sad to see changes come though they are inevitable. There are less and less folks playing and more and more game options. The energy for this game will never again be what it once was but I am not unhappy about anything guildwise"
Vanykrye says, "Ok, well let me reiterate that nothing will be done without the guild's approval and knowledge."
Vanykrye says, "And by knowledge, I'm talking about informed opinion."
Vanykrye says, "Not just "fly by seat of pants" opinion."
Daggerwood says, "What would you like to see happen Vany?"
Vanykrye says, "I would like us to stay TID."
Aiymi Katashi points at Vany "He just wants to rule you all"
Devine's Right Hand says, "thats good, that sort of thing caused huge splits in KoW years ago"
Ninavie says, "lol"
Aiymi Katashi grins
Daggerwood says, "LOL at Aiymi - since we are such obedient Subjects"
Vanykrye says, "If Nina, at some point, decides to step down as monarch, I can step in."
You say, "bow down to him and tremble in fear"
Little Thor says, "good"
Ninavie says, "And if I did step down, I would most likely still be activly involve in the guild leadership"
Vanykrye says, "SSShhhhh....I'm supposed to build up to the "bow down before me part"!"
Ninavie says, "uhhuu"
Vanykrye says, "However..."
Leon the Loyal says, ""!""
Daggerwood says, "Well I think that what you decide works for you all is fine with me, you have invested a great deal of time in leading and developing this guild"
Vanykrye says, "If it were to turn out that Nina decides to step down and after a few months of serious effort I find that I can't truly step in, then we would need to revisit the issue."
Ninavie says, "Leon, you have the floor, when Vany has finished his thought"
Leon the Loyal says, "Yep"
Daggerwood says, "Eugene tries that bow to the king crap occasionally too but it doessn't go well for him either :-)"
Ninavie says, "lol"
Vanykrye says, "Does that basically answer it for you Dagger?"
Leon the Loyal says, "I just wanted to say that activity is not everything. I think people who come in contact with TID are impressed with Nina's warmth and openness"
Daggerwood says, "Yep"
Ninavie says, "aww :)"
Leon the Loyal says, "I think players are impressed with TID because they are impressed with our Monarch"
Vanykrye says, "I believe that as well"
Leon the Loyal says, "I'm not saying Vany isn't great. He is of course"
Vanykrye says, "No offense taken, worry not"
Ninavie says, "tss"
Leon the Loyal says, "But Nina is a wonderful public face for our clan"
Ninavie says, "just not as great"
Daggerwood says, "Man I think I just saw his head swell"
Devine's Right Hand says, "I just love ya all"
Ninavie says, "we understand"
Ninavie :P
Daggerwood -)
Leon the Loyal says, "and that is a big part of what a Monarch should be imho"
Little Thor )
Ninavie says, "Thank you for the support, it means alot :)"
Leon the Loyal says, "we have people that are ready to lead quests now; new people; more than ever I think"
Aiymi Katashi says, "we all love you, you know that :)"
Leon the Loyal says, "(I am not one of them as you know)"
Aiymi Katashi says, "after the holidays I'll be leading them again :)"
Leon the Loyal says, "but we have people to keep us active in terms of quest runs"
Daggerwood says, "Hard to get folks to come on for them right now but it changes after the holidays"
Leon the Loyal says, "ok that's it. thanks."
Ninavie says, "Anyone else have any questions or comments?"
Daggerwood says, "I am good"
Devine's Right Hand says, "if not for my desire to see KoW an active allegiance again, just can't seem to give up the ghost... then I would move all my toons to TID"
Ninavie :)
Devine's Right Hand says, "thanks for making me welcome"
Ninavie says, "We understand loyalty :)"
Vanykrye says, "We actually encourage it."
Devine's Right Hand says, "just to many good memories"
Aiymi Katashi says, "yep, totally understand"
Devine's Right Hand says, "Nina have you seen what my title is on the KoW forum"
Ninavie says, "I dont believe I have"
Devine's Right Hand says, "Brainware wired for AC, keeper of the KoW AC flame"
Ninavie says, "lol"
Vanykrye says, "Very nice"
Ninavie says, "indeed"
Ninavie says, "Ok guys, I'll wrap this up officially. thank you much for coming"
Devine's Right Hand says, "is becuse I never left for another game and was on my own for 2 years in KoW"
Ninavie says, "please continue voicing your opinions on the forum when we get the log up and so"
Aiymi Katashi says, "yep, voicing my opinion is something I excell at ! :)"
Ninavie says, "If you have any questions you'd like to ask in private you know me and Vany are only a /t away" Download Full Log
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